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    Mexico owned California and Texas at one time before the U.S. invaded Mexico

November 22, 2016 -


For over a year we have heard one US politician, slash TV reality star, slash billionaire in real estate, state that the US needs to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.

That politician never stated once how the US sorta stole the land that is now California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Nevada, Arizona and others NOT ALL THAT LONG AGO.

Although "stole" may be a little harsh, as it's stated in historical citations that "Mexico did not exert any effective control", in all respects, most of the land really belonged to indiginous peoples, neither Mexico or the United States really owned anything when we look at it one way.

Alta California belonged to Mexico in the early 1800's

Alta California shown in RED belonged to Mexico before 1848, not the United States, and comprised of a huge part of what is now under U.S. control. Notice that Texas was part of Mexico here as well. Image credit by Shadowxfox (Own work) [CC BY-SA 4.0 (], via Wikimedia Commons


The Mexican war with the United States ended up with displaced people who were no longer part of the US.

Mexicans that were living in what was Mexico, on the land over 50 million people now currently live on, were suddenly illegal aliens in a way.

With the declaration of government, "winning the territory" basically by massacre (war) the Mexicans and indiginous peoples became illegals.


In 1847 the US invaded Mexico City

The US was actually in Mexico City fighting their citizens in the Battle of Churubusco.

Maybe it would be good for the U.S. to build a wall, to protect Mexico from further invasions.

Battle of Churubusco August 1847

U.S. soldiers battling victoriously at Churubusco outside Mexico City

Image by John Cameron (artist), Nathaniel Currier (lithographer and publisher) (Library of Congress[1]) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons


United States bloody attack on Chapultepec September 13, 1847

Chapultepec is an urban park in Mexico City

The U.S. storming this park in Mexico is like if terrorists had stormed Central Park in New York City, or tried to blow up it's buildings.

That's what the US did when it invaded Mexico City in 1847, created a war in a city park in a country it doesn't own and still doesn't own.

And it worries about illegal immigrants "invading" - OMG - someone please compare notes and inform the new president elect. The USA is not the "saintuary" country it appears to be.

U.S. marines storming Chapultepec castle under a large American flag

By E.B. & E.C. Kellogg (Firm) - This image is available from the United States Library of Congress's Prints and Photographs division under the digital ID cph.3g06207. Public Domain,

Some say the federal government really kinda stole Mexican land, or maybe it's more like squatting with rifles in hand and cannons ready.

And now it wants to make Mexico pay for a wall.


Really what the US should do is give half the land back to Mexico!
Imagine this territory grab happened in 1965, but the other way around, Mexico declaring Hollywood, California theirs on December 31 that year, and took over all property rights after invading Griffith Park. Parents of children born in Hollywood in 1965 suddenly are illegals and can't come visit you or live with you because you live in Palm Springs and Mexico only took over Los Angeles.

Palm Springs remained in the states and your mom and dad were now in Mexico one day later, as Mexicans, living in Hollywood, Mexico, without stepping outside their previous home.

So on January 1, 1966 they are told to get out of Los Angeles, Mexico, which decided it would build a wall between there and Palm Springs, and make the USA pay for it.

Some people who are now just too giddy about their elction choice winning cannot see for the life of them how this kind of thing upsets a huge dynamic of families for generations.

They cannot see how flows of people operate.

They are in bubble mania right now. Trump won woo who.

The Mexican War of Independence

In the Mexican War of 1822 it declared independence from Spain and then had this territory.

I would think that if the U.S. was fair and balanced, it would celebrate Mexico's independence like it claims it wants to do with Syria and other countries in the Middle East, and around the world and would have done everything in it's power to protect such independence.

Hmmmmm. Instead, it took it, like Trump wants to steal oil now.

We have heard many a politician make statements about how the U.S. needs to go to war to protect a country's independence, yet it did the opposite with Mexico.

An article on MSNBC calls that concept of taking their oil as "psychotalk" because it would violate international treaties.

But wars start over disagreements in previous treaties, so it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that war could break out over "taking their oil" as has happend with "taking their land" as seen throughout history.

Technically though, we do need to go back a bit and understand that Mexico and the United States did come to an agreement but it wasn't until after this battle with Mexico ending in them recognizing Texas as independent from that country, and it was not without incurring many horrific casualties of this war that occured between 1846 - 1848.


Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo

Image of the cover of the exchange copy of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo by the Governments of USA and Mexico.

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo

This media is available in the holdings of the National Archives and Records Administration, cataloged under the ARC Identifier (National Archives Identifier) 299809. Public Domain,

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